you have to watch marco rubio. if he comes out to an eventual pathway to citizenship, and you're going to go through a whole bunch of obstacles, payments, but if he ultimately supports is, you can get a deal. >> it's in his initial plan. >> what about five years ago though? george w. bush, the president of the united states supported immigration reform, and he got absolutely rolled by republicans in the house and the senate. marco rubio doesn't have the power to make a republican from iowa support this. >> he might. >> no, he doesn't. >> he's one of the few republicans who's conservative enough he can get people to change their habits. if you don't, the numbers will kill them. you can't leave the fastest growing group in america in perpetuity. texas politics are in the different today. four years, eight years, they're radically different. if you look at the growth of hispanic in texas, you have the five largest cities. they're all moving to the middle, largely because you have growing minority populations. the coun